The creators of The Andy Griffith Show debated how Andy should punish Opie
To spank or not to spank? That was the question after season two.
After The Andy Griffith Show wrapped its second season, the creative minds behind Mayberry looked to shake things up. "We're going to bring in a new mayor," director Bob Sweeney told Hollywood columnist Charles Witbeck in the summer of 1962, "A boss who is younger and less intelligent."
That's not exactly how it worked out, of course. Parley Baer, later introduced in "Andy and the New Mayor," was neither younger nor noticeably less intelligent.
In that summer between seasons, things were changing but still uncertain. Beyond the mayor, the big topic of debate was Andy's personal life.
"Something has to be done about Andy's love life and his son Opie," Witbeck wrote.
"Bringing up Opie has us all talking," Sweeney admitted. "We all have our personal ideas on how it should be done. For instance, if Opie has disobeyed his father, does he get whipped?"
Producer Aaron Ruben, Sweeney and Andy Griffith himself debated the topic. The men behind the scenes deferred to their star.
"Aaron and I first must know how strongly Andy feels on the subject," Sweeney said. "Andy has to sit down with the boy, and if he feels Opie must be spanked, that is what will happen… it can be done off stage and to a limited degree."
As fans know, Andy Taylor is never seen spanking Opie. So you can surmise how that discussion went between Ruben, Sweeney and Griffith. In fact, the closest he came was in season two, in "Keeper of the Flame," when Andy tells Bee that Opie is in for a whippin' for what he did to Jubal Foster's barn.
A season later, in "Opie and the Spoiled Kid," corporal punishment is handed out on the show — to a different child. Arnold Winkler is literally taken out to the woodshed, leading Opie to apologize to his pa.
Spanking did occur on the set of The Andy Griffith Show, albeit behind the scenes. Rance Howard, who parented his precocious child star Ronny on set, dished it out. Just once. In his book Andy and Don: The Making of a Friendship and a Classic American TV Show, author Daniel de Visé wrote, "Everyone on the Griffith set witnessed the dynamic between Rance and Ronny in its full complexity… One day, Rance surprised everyone on the set by bending the child star over his knee and administering a spanking. It happened only once."
Bear in mind, this was a hot topic of parenting and public debate at the time. "Spankings of grammar school pupils have been authorized by the Berkeley School board," a news bulletin declared on July 12, 1965, on the same newspaper page that printed Andy Griffith Show listings.
Andy and the sitcom's call to keep it out of the Taylor household scenes was a conscious decision.
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(very likely the brat was one to lead half a dozen others)
but when all boys EXCEPT the brat gets spanked (Opie on camera after Andy says "not because i hate what you did, (even though i do), but because I love you so much that it hurts me more than this will hurt you" ... although i think Andy would, before filming, have asked Ronnie if he could give him an on camera "as bad as Rance hit" spanking... pointing out he wanted kids to know not OK to go along with the crowd.
so when brat starts braging "you all got spanked but my Pa didn't care, just a 'not again' wadya think about that"
to which Opie thinks and says: "I think our Pa's love us more your Pa loves you" (all boys nod agreeing)
and then the Spoiled Brat could ask his dad "why not" and then "please spank me" (i'm not a writer so very bad implementation but you see how brat shows he's sorry)
i'd also like to see Andy remind dad son been spoiled for years, might need extra swats... and tell brat "you've been acting up a lot and you might need to remind your dad some things because dads tend to forget bad things that happen."
that's already too long but a "after last commercial" bit to close show could be the dad and (former?) brat enter "enough firewood?" "huh?" "in the woodshed" He asked (former?) brat "oh, yeah, maybe too much (while rubbing his backside)"... "well, you can sit by Opie while your father and I evaluate the fines.." still rubbing his backside, "um, if it's alright with you Sheriff sir, I'd prefer to stop" fade out as all others smirk knowingly"
Once I got sent to bed without my supper (I played hookey from school that day), but that's about the extent of it.
one of fav dreams - a yelling contest
Frank Sutton vs Don Knotts
the guards were to keep the son in the castle and he wanted only to be a singer
These backstories from TAGs are fascinating. In support of Ron Howard's upbringing, it seems to have turned out, okay?